Posted by SkySitter (220.127.116.11) on November 04, 2000 at 04:22:43:
In Reply to: Re: My view regarding "guidance" 2 posted by Dharma Student on November 04, 2000 at 01:20:13:
: Oh, I think there should be at least another reason for studying with a teacher.
: It seems now we're so uncomfortable with the fashion of having a guidance, we'd love to say no one can enlighten us, we are our own guidance. That makes sense. But let's look at it from another side: is it just because we subconsciously want to protect our ego?
: It is shown in the story about Hui Nang that even after he had composed that well-known (and also over-quoted) "Bodhi is not tree" poem, he still were not fully enlightened, there were subtle confusions which were not cleared up until the Fifth patriarch's taught him the Diamond Sutra.
: I've heard that in the Chinese Chan tradition the verification of a qualified teacher has been emphasized because anyone can interpret what he experiences in a highly subjective way.
: I just tell from my own experiences that advices from people other than ourselves helped to open up. Everyone does have different options and I accept that.
: BTW, I would be also interested in knowing the Tibetan point-of-view.
In Upaddha Sutta (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/samyutta/sn45-2.html),
"Having admirable people as friends, companions, & colleagues is actually the whole of the holy life."
As to direct and one-on-one teaching, I am still consider that is more for the verification ("You came from the right path"), rather than detailed instruction ("Now, go there next"). I could be wrong. I shall yield the floor so others can speak (post)...
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